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Thursday, November 06, 2025

Bowen sets the stage for a new source of ruin  

 Everyone in Australia should IMO watch the Whitehouse effect because it is a solid documentation of how the discussion of both AGW ( anthropomorphic global warming ) particularly ( as doco material largely ends over 20 years ago) and CC ( climate change ) developed. 

It hasn't changed my view that CO2 was and still is wrongly implicated in a disaster scenario. Symbolically this story on AGW ends where that story failed in 

the late 90's and CC took over . 

The biggest problem about the political ship of panic about CO2 is that its changed hulls ( from AGW to CC) and is therefore likely to sink on intellectual competency grounds alone ( forget where the oil lobby is -- to easy to blame them and simple Marxism (mix of projection ,envy and idealism etc ?)  is still our enemy .


Unless  public debate  goes back to basics ( how to get energy) the confusion that this doco so well establishes, will remain . 

Typically, when a serious problem like fuel costs and oil availability arises , no political ( UN media ,party ) can be trusted  to proactively address it. 

The mad post Christian mood that we can eliminate  greed and play god with the atmosphere has most definitely added to the confusion and distractions ( like C02)  . God help us if any of us think the UN has the answers . 


What the doco makes even more concrete for me is that 

1. the abuse of fossil fuels  remains a threat  but 

2. the political sides that have developed around it are not stable and never have been

3 the confusion in the USA over 20 years ago , so well  shown in the more open discussions in the USA , failed to resolve the focus and the ways forward leading to Bush's hesitation around 1992 when Rio happened 

4 The UN as can be reasonably be expected of an organization which is so heavenly minded  it thinks it can state solutions to world problems  when its main members  don't solve their own , only reinforced resistance in the USA as a whole to any action commitments at Rio in June.   

5 The USA's reaction to what amounted to bullying tactics was predictable normal and quite reasonable. Doesn't mean we should ignore real truths . 

6  Schnieder and Reilly ( the influential scientists rightly featured on reflection at the end ) were most interesting as they were recorded well and reflect the limited capacity of any scientist to deal with all the issues involved   


A lot of that huge angst was ours too but we Aussies  , like the people of the free world , did not see fully just HOW the discussion targets changed . We live on an island and are fed by the ABC ( a bunch of idealists - not scientists ) .

The doco is very useful list of changing worries from heat m drought to ice melts, storms and sea level rise .  

Jane ( below ) has IMO nailed the end of the AGW era to Gores smart arsing  and that films and the ABC's preoccupation with the J curve ,before 2000 


The next doco( 2000-25) needs to focus on what truths have come forward since that time that add to the need to plan for the future ...and not panic the people through the game of politics. 

As Bush rightly said " Its the eco stupid " that matters and a lot of good work by Vaclav recently on that ( How the world works) , 

CC is a messy watery hole ( like the gold prize badge of Net Zero) that i don't think has much chance of surviving.  AGW has more testability IMO  http://quickfiz.blogspot.com  


I do like Schneiders sound summary that the needed change will not come quickly, but will be generational. We don't know how realistic that will be either . 

BUT 

Young people, unlike us oldies, are leading the way in reducing pressure on the environment ( this is the realists end game here !!!) ( non caged eggs, local milk) smaller houses and cars . 

But let no one think we are near Nirvana . The better world is worlds away and greed and deception ( incl self deception)  are here with us to stay .




Everyone in Australia should IMO watch the Whitehouse effect because it is a solid documentation of how the discussion of both AGW ( anthropomorphic global warming ) particularly ( as doco material largely ends over 20 years ago) and CC ( climate change ) developed. 

It hasn't changed my view that CO2 was and still is wrongly implicated in a disaster scenario. Symbolically this story on AGW ends where that story failed in 

the late 90's and CC took over . 

The biggest problem about the political ship of panic about CO2 is that its changed hulls ( from AGW to CC) and is therefore likely to sink on intellectual competency grounds alone ( forget where the oil lobby is -- to easy to blame them and simple Marxism (mix of envy and idealism etc ?)  is still our enemy   .


Unless  public debate  goes back to basics ( how to get energy) the confusion that this doco so well establishes, will remain . 

Typically, when a serious problem like fuel costs and oil availability arises , no political ( UN media ,party ) can be trusted  to proactively address it. 

The mad post Christian mood that we can eliminate  greed and play god with the atmosphere has most definitely added to the confusion and distractions ( like C02)  . God help us if any of us think the UN has the answers . 


What the doco makes even more concrete for me is that 

1. the abuse of fossil fuels  remains a threat  but 

2. the political sides that have developed around it are not stable and never have been

3 the confusion in the USA over 20 years ago , so well  shown in the more open discussions in the USA , failed to resolve the focus and the ways forward leading to Bush's hesitation around 1992 when Rio happened 

4 The UN as can be reasonably be expected of an organization which is so heavenly minded  it thinks it can state solutions to world problems  when its main members  don't solve their own , only reinforced resistance in the USA as a whole to any action commitments at Rio in June.   

5 The USA's reaction to what amounted to bullying tactics was predictable normal and quite reasonable. Doesn't mean we should ignore real truths . 

6  Schnieder and Reilly ( the influential scientists rightly featured on reflection at the end ) were most interesting as they were recorded well and reflect the limited capacity of any scientist to deal with all the issues involved   


A lot of that huge angst was ours too but we Aussies  , like the people of the free world , did not see fully just HOW the discussion targets changed . We live on an island and are fed by the ABC ( a bunch of idealists - not scientists ) .

The doco is very useful list of changing worries from heat m drought to ice melts, storms and sea level rise .  

Jane ( below ) has IMO nailed the end of the AGW era to Gores smart arsing  and that films and the ABC's preoccupation with the J curve ,before 2000 


The next doco( 2000-25) needs to focus on what truths have come forward since that time that add to the need to plan for the future ...and not panic the people through the game of politics. 

As Bush rightly said " Its the eco stupid " that matters and a lot of good work by Vaclav recently on that ( How the world works) , CC is a messy watery hole ( like the badge Net Zero) that i don't think has much chance of surviving.  AGW has more testability IMO  http://quickfiz.blogspot.com  


I do like Schneiders sound summary that the needed change will not come quickly, but will be generational. We don't know how realistic that will be either . 

BUT 

Young people, unlike us oldies, are leading the way in reducing pressure on the environment ( this is the realists end game here !!!) ( non caged eggs, local milk) smaller houses and cars . 

But let no one think we are near Nirvana . The better world is worlds away and greed and deception ( incl self deception)  are here with us to stay . 


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Monday, January 21, 2019

Fatcheck  

You have heard of ABC fact check , Its where according to the apostles and the new pedantry we find the truth in mere facts. Pity there is too much fat , Such adventures seldom go more than skin deep  In the internet age they keep people busy and listening . Thats enough for our misleading media empires .


Why stats and facts won't improve health care for example.

Managers don't know staff or trust them and any out like the  monitoring out is easy for such characters- in a more completely respeonsible structure such lost people would drop out .With cyicsism and a ne job to do they have work to do.
 Pity it breeds cynicism and abandonment to cynicism . That wouldn't worry Insiders and Innocents
If I don't want to , you can't make me. and worse if you need statistics to prove to you that I have a problem - the problem is yours (as a leader,)
We have lost sight of how individual inspiration to care can be fostered and encouraged - the way that marked many of our forebears way of thinking and sense of freedom, hierarchy and responsibility. We have replaced it with something that can "works" in industry but never works in community- distrust, a preoccupation with dumb mechanistic efficiency ( from the market ) and force. what a mess http://govisnotbusiness.blogspot.com  

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Thursday, December 06, 2012

Giving freedom and avoiding Cliffs is productivity modelling  


Sach and Ross Gittins are in the news this week (SydneyMH) talking about big picture economic policy . About time I say ;
Many economists haven't really factored scarcity and regeneration elements into their plain 2 dimensional ledger sheet modelling. That doesn't help our leaders who really need a good lead here !
The real world is more than supply and demand control but you wouldn't know that listening to the desperate and careless talk of leaders and the majority of the audience at the moment .The Free marketeers need a good kick where it hurts !( I am talking about their simple mind games mostly)?    Below is a piece I posted elsewhere . Feel free to join me on ecomia anytime .

Sound big picture economists and practical ecologists have always started with a conversation about elasticity .Bigger picture discussions must move from plain elasticity to resilience assessment.  
 Resilience assessment tells you how close to the cliff others  are and if you don't factor that in, people will fall off!! This cartoon I drew in 2007 .
Everyone tells about my old work even though "noone ", I know anyway , is still doing much at its edges . Resilience is a key consideration in eco -nomics and one of its measures is elasticity. Elasticity in connections .
The blunt nature of the current fiddling with the old S&D instrument is blatantly obvious in the present Australian govt's ham fisted attempts to increase energy prices to reduce demand (a very thick trick)and their careless feather bedding of the already rich water and other resource industries by talking up the need for water demand control .
Tax is a win win thing under their simple and simplistic choices.
Putting prices up,( and giving handouts)  is something polys and S&D freaks understand , which means they might think they know what they are doing--- if Sir Humphrey is not present -
Until you show them the effects of in-elasticity and steep loss of control at the intersection of the 2 curves and how that can create wars, and bring down governments they get" intoxicated by their own wisdom "; They, like the media and the  game audience will play with things they don't really understand -our shared resources ( oikonomia)  It all seemed like some power over people at last !!!!
It seems to me that good economic management is a bit like parenting in relation to S&D . You make distinctions about when and when not to interfere ( Good governance was Sachs point) Morally and materially you don't want to stop how your kids spend money( eco freedom ) but you may influence how much disposable they have ( role of govt )
Let’s not pretend we should ditch what worked OK in the past ( Oikonomia and professional study of these matters ) for a dangerous media led game which plays around at the edges of cliffs ( and doesn’t know it )   With cliffs – someone  needs to know just how close they are and it isn’t fair to expect the children to know !

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Monday, August 20, 2012

Red tape and relying on the unreliable 

Politicians don't like to point to it ,but all parties rely on advice from others . All parties have made the grand mistake that they should include/increase the amount of  business advice they get from parties outside their own  . Now all parties and Shires are overwhelmed , even snowed by these indigestable documents from business but asked for by the bureau . Unless the States go back to ensuring that shires and enviro departments have staff to digest this stuff they will continue to get snowed by them . Now Abbott thinks that Canberra can help . The only way it can help is to stop the snowing.
As the coal stuff shows, if you have a got a big budget ,even the biggest media campaign can't win against a pile of sacred PAPER which only the rich proponents can understand .And it doesn't stop there . Every sentence is grist for the lawyers mill so that the productivity of the process is clearly the lowest in the OECD . Low point too in the liberal mind of 2012.
The only way Canberra and the party  can help is to stop the snowing . Their own operatives used to be able to resist the snowing by setting the brief and limiting the bull . Now the huge bureaus just gets swamped by it .Radical thinking BEFORE falling for radical surgery.

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Monday, August 06, 2012

sycophants to big money interests in compete denail 

One can only wonder why Bob Katter got a guernsey to appear on qanda tonight  . One presumes the god makers thought he would make enough gaffs to make him only entertainment value . The last thing anyone in the wannabe famous audience wants to do is to take him seriuosly .
 He doesn't know everything,  but he was the one who started the selling the farm debate that has dragged all the participants in tonight.
Our societies failure to invest in the capital and run on the cash is the truth - terrible for us that we don't want to hear it .
Hope some young people in the audience will recognize a genuine bloke who has faithfully sought alone to represent the minority view.
Silly old fabians can't even see why they are becoming increasingly irrelevant , they talk big about big interests but follow,  as Bob said tonight , the conservatives down the sycophants road to market driven exploitation and nirvana (depending on which silly extreme nonsense chair you sit on )
if you live on the earth , not just talk about the earth , you learn these things and you build, not end up with egg or some now well dated  old reactionaries tune on your lips /face.

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Wednesday, January 25, 2012

Nothing will change in the West till the West takes Weber seriously 

If ecology, we talk about drivers . In economics of today there is no contest; there is only one driver and its name is "the market" ; very dumb ( monocultural)and almost religiuos in nature

This weeks WEF ( World Economic Forum ) be just another waster of time unless there is a bit more diversity in the discussion about who drives what when and where. If we ecologists did business like most wannabes do business we wouldn't have one to run .
Woosy governnments are partly a product of their own stupidity - created as they often now are - in the image of the market.
One hopes the hit to the fanatasy of faith in real estate values will shake them

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Wednesday, November 23, 2011

There are some people who know how to make a green economy 

But they don't work for Julia and Greenlabor . Chris Ullman (ABCTV )hosted a most welcome discussion tonight that finally let a few experts speak . Jeff,Ian and Judith were so good and reminded us that Greenlabor were more interested in some esoteric kindergarten acccountancy than the stuff that has made this country as good as it is.

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